Is Disqus Killing Your Blog? Why (and How) I Pulled the Plug

Disqus Comment

I recently made the decision to remove the Disqus comment system from my blog.

And it wasn’t a knee-jerk reaction.

I did quite a bit of research first and got a lot of feedback (both solicited and unsolicited) from others.

In this post, I’m going to walk you through my experiences with Disqus as a blog owner, my readers’ experiences with it, and the advantages and disadvantages of Disqus.

We’ll  also cover how it could affect you in your online efforts.

Why I Hated to See Disqus Comments Go

I loved Disqus. From the standpoint of a blog owner, I have nothing but good to say about the back end and functionality of Disqus.

I loved all the configuration options, their way of threading comments, and especially the functional and attractive emailing system.

They have various options available for managing, moderating, and changing the appearance of comments.

I was a Disqus lover.

From the place where I stood, all was well.

But all wasn’t well.

When the Feedback Started Rolling In

One of the great things about my audience is they regularly communicate with me. I hear from readers consistently through social media, email, and in my comments.

From time to time, I hear complaints about certain things. And I really do consider them all. But at the same time, complaints can occasionally represent a tiny percentage of a group – and sometimes they represent a majority.

So when complaints arise, you have to take them seriously and weigh them in terms of how they affect the majority of your audience. For the most part, I had very few people complain about Disqus to me – so I assumed only a few subscribers disliked it.

But then, a comment thread in one of my posts turned to a discussion of Disqus. The results made me begin to think more people than I realized were unhappy with it and just weren’t speaking up. So I asked for feedback – and man did I get it.

Here’s just a small sample of the public feedback I received during that time…

Mary Disqus

That’s from Mary Jaksch, a friend of mine from A-List Blogging. An ally. And yet she was frustrated enough to publicly comment on my post about how much she disliked using Disqus. She also let me know how she felt about it (in no uncertain terms) in private conversations, too.

The bottom line is, the only reason Mary used Disqus on my blog is because she wanted to support posts she enjoyed that were written by a friend. Regardless of how much she liked the post, if we hadn’t been friends, she wouldn’t have bothered.

Temple Disqus

Here’s a comment from one of my subscribers in a comment thread in which I asked for feedback about Disqus. I did a quick search through my comments – and I couldn’t find any prior comments from her.

But she felt is was important enough to break her normal Disqus rule and weigh in on this discussion. I’m glad she did.

Sophie Disqus

Gee, I wonder how Sophie really feels? (A question no one has asked… ever.)

That from another person I really respect, my friend Sophie Lizard of Be a Freelance Blogger. In addition to being a friend, Sophie is one of the brightest people I know, so when something annoys her enough to leave a comment like that, I listen.

And finally…

Twitter Disqus

This tweet was posted the same day as Sophie’s comment, and it put me over the top. It was the last straw.

Here’s someone who really connected with my post who tried to comment but got frustrated and gave up. Thankfully, they went to the trouble to tweet my post and voice their support anyway.
(Thank you @SkinnyBudgetMkt!)

Something was going on, and it wasn’t something good. It made me wonder how many of my other readers felt the same way, and as a result weren’t bothering to comment on my posts.

Think of all the missed interactions and all the potentially awesome conversations that may have never happened.

I still didn’t understand why people didn’t like Disqus.

But then it hit me. We preach it all the time…

It’s not about you. It’s about the audience.

As much as I pride myself on being in touch with my audience, I clearly wasn’t in this case – which is unacceptable. It’s my responsibility to make sure I’m on top of things that affect the audience experience.

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Why (at least some of) My Readers Hated Disqus

Not only did I like using Disqus on my blog, but I enjoyed using it as a visitor on other blogs as well. It was easy to use. I couldn’t wrap my mind around this quiet but verifiable dislike of Disqus.

So I went back to many of those people who had sent me feedback and asked them what they didn’t like about it. Here were the three most common answers.

1: It’s a hassle to sign in.
Some of them don’t like having to sign in with Twitter or Facebook or Gravitar or any other service. They reported to me they’d rather just type in their information in the normal WordPress comments.

2: It’s a privacy issue.
Some felt by using social networks to log in, their privacy was being compromised and they might be allowing potentially bad-intentioned strangers access to their profiles.

3: It’s difficult to manage multiple identities.
Some people have multiple online projects or identities. For instance, let’s say I have this blog – plus a side business selling artwork online. The argument is that if I want to be able to choose which identity I want represented by my comment on your blog, I have to log in differently. In WordPress comments, there’s no login. You just type in your information.

Interesting. At least it was to me. Because I personally didn’t understand most of these objections.

The way I saw it…

Hassle:
I never considered this. To me logging in is easy and fast. I’m used to it.

Privacy:
I don’t mind online services knowing my social networking information. In fact, I go to great lengths to spread that around. And the risk of a reputable service like Disqus commandeering my social media accounts wasn’t a concern to me.

Multiple Identities:
Now this one made sense to me. It wasn’t something I personally had to deal with, but in this case, Disqus would most certainly be a hassle to use when compared to WordPress comments.

But you know what? Whether I agree or disagree with their reasons, my readers’ opinions matter more than mine. You all need to be able to feel comfortable here and interact with the content.

The audience had spoken. The decision was made.

I backed up my existing comments to WordPress and deactivated Disqus.

What I Did After Disqus Went Dark

Instead of boring you with all the different comment systems available out there, I’m just going to tell you what I decided to use.

I ultimately went with the system that would split the difference between back-end ease for me – and ease of use for my audience. I chose to use the native WordPress comment system plus the free version of the CommentLuv plugin.

The feature most people like about CommentLuv is also the most criticized feature. It’s the fact that readers leaving comments get links back to their latest post.

On the upside, this feature encourages more traffic and activity on your posts. On the downside, many argue that it encourages spammy comments.

Additionally, some people feel the free version of CommentLuv is so feature-poor compared to CommentLuv Pro ($67, $87, or $97 depending on the license) that it’s not worth using.

If you take a good look at the features of CommentLuv Pro, you’ll notice many of the really useful features come from other plugins.

After a bit of research, I found I could grab most of those plugins (at least the ones I was interested in using) for free – without having to use CommentLuv Pro.

Sure, I’m missing out on some of the other features. But then again, I don’t really want or need those features. Someday, if I decide I need them, I’ll go buy Pro. Untill then, I think I’ve struck a nice balance. Here are the plugins I’ve installed to support the free version of CommentLuv.

How to Use Free Plugins to Enhance CommentLuv

Here’s the configuration I’m currently using here on Reboot Authentic:

The free version of CommentLuv allows you to reward commenters by providing a link back to their most recent blog post.

The Growmap Anti Spambot Plugin (G.A.S.P.) helps keep automated spambots at bay. Prior to this comment system change, I had always used Akismet. You can find information applauding or cursing either. I’m currently using them together with no negative repercussions. Give it a try.

Subscribe to Comments Reloaded allows your readers to subscribe to a comment thread. This is one of the functions I liked about Disqus and didn’t want to lose. This one isn’t as impressive as the way Disqus does it in my opinion, but it’s easy, functional, and gets the job done.

Dofollow allows you to remove the nofollow attribute from your comments. This means your readers who post comments not only have a chance of people clicking through to their post, but they’ll also get some link juice (credit for being linked to) out of it. It’s just s nice thing to do to help out your active commenters.

You can find a list of the other plugins on the CommentLuv Pro page and decide for yourself which features you’d like in your comments.

So far, my configuration is working pretty well for me.

The Jury is Still Out

I’ve only been using the above configuration for a while now, and it’s hard to tell what the full impact of the change will be. However, a few questions have been answered at least to a degree.

Have the “I hate Disqus” messages stopped?
Well, yeah. The plugin is gone, so they’ve stopped.

Has the new configuration made life easier for me?
No. But then again, it’s not been a huge pain either. You do have to keep an eye on moderation more with this setup because it’s not as good at detecting spammy comments. Speaking of spam…

What about the spam?
Disqus was wonderful at detecting and properly categorizing spam. I always assumed Akismet was catching it all. It wasn’t. Disqus is damn good at it. So now I’m running both Akismet and G.A.S.P. and I still have to watch more than before. The spam isn’t horrible, but it’s also not better, or even equal to how Disqus handled it.

Have you noticed more comment volume than before?
Not yet. I’ve only had a couple of posts go live, but so far the number of (real) comments have been about the same. So, to a degree, I’m wondering if those who mentioned their dislike of Disqus were just venting – or if this will really make a difference long-term. It’s still very early, so time will tell.
*Update: The first day alone of this post resulted in the most comments to date on a Reboot Authentic post. So it appears this answer will be changing to “yes.”

How do you feel about all this?

Does the comment system dictate if you’ll take part in the discussion or not?

Let’s talk about it below… in the non-Disqus comments :-)

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Comments

  1. Hey Gary, congratulation on killing Disqus! I’m delighted – and now I can comment whenever I feel like it. Woohoo!

  2. Yay. Disquis is a pain, always needing extra steps simply to leave a comment. Good for you for listening to your audience. I’m with Mary – woohoo
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  3. Hey Gary,

    Just picked this up when you shared it on G+ and felt I had to comment as I’m actually a fan of Disqus.

    You’ve taken a brave step to remove the plugin and despite the fact that I’m a fan – I agree with your decision to remove it.

    I love the plugin because it’s so good at stopping spam and when I installed it I went from 100 spam comments/day right down to 0.

    I’ll be making the move to switch back to native WP soon myself because I hate adding extra steps that are potentially killing engagement.

    It’s just a shame that there’s so much spam!
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  4. Gary, I agree with you. I had to go through the same a while ago. I use G.A.S.P and it keeps most of the spam away.

    Kind Regards

    Ravi
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  5. Just posting this to say I won’t be commenting here again. I only post on Disqus blogs as I can view all my comments and replies in one place

    • Well, here’s the other side of the coin – and there was bound to be one.

      I’m sorry to hear that, Mark – and I understand your decision. I agree that’s one of the nice features of Disqus. I can only hope you reconsider it and come back to chat with us sometime.

      One question, though: I don’t see your name or your blog’s name. Have you commented here in the past? I’ll do a comment search to find you and send you a personal email.

      Thanks.
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      • Slātlantican says:

        Mark does indeed point out possibly the best feature of Disqus. I had seen Disqus around from time to time—mainly on CNN—but started using it only last fall, after the disastrous redesign of Slate (including the adoption of Livefyre commenting) drove me to The Atlantic. That’s when I discovered the joy of having comments from multiple sites—and from multiple friends that I’ve made—appear all in one place. Who else does that?

        • Yes – and Mark never did reply as to who he is. I did some research after this comment. I checked and he isn’t any Mark who has ever subscribed, because I’ve never had a Mark unsubscribe. Nor is he any Mark who has ever commented here before.

          So Mysterious Mark came in for a Disqus post, commented he’d never comment here again (which he never had in the first place)… and then didn’t respond when I politely asked him to identify
          himself. Also no link left.

          Curious at the very least.
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          • I enjoyed your article.

            But, I have the same question as this poster had. Are there any other comment aggregators?

            The only feature I like about Disqus is the ability to easily follow multiple posts …. I do not use Disqus on my blog, only use the standard WP comments.

            Wayne
            Luvsiesous.com

        • Disqus Sucks any comments that make the Government look bad your comment is deleted I have been banned from comments on a paid site so I am looking for another server

  6. Gary, I have disabled comments on various blogs in the past and encouraged others to disable comments as well, simply to avoid the spam. It also disables the potential for great conversations of course, but I’ve noticed that other bloggers choose to disable comments entirely for their own reasons. Did Seth Godin ever allow comments on his blog? I really don’t recall, but he doesn’t allow them now.

    One thing I’ve observed is that some marketers are using Facebook to accumulate comments now, instead of blog comments. That’s another strategy entirely, but just a thought to add to this thread.

    • Yes, Mia –

      I’ve noticed that as well, and you make some great points. I think it depends on what type of blog you run and who you are. A friend of Reboot Authentic, Linda Formichelli at Renegade Writer disabled them. She wrote a great piece describing why, but the bottom line was that it wasn’t her cup of tea. She didn’t enjoy it or feel that she needed them on her blog. And that’s a great reason to disable comments.

      I’m not sure what Seth does – but none of us should measure our decisions by Seth. He’s on a different plane! :)

      As for me, I love comments. I love these conversations that happen “down here” so I’m going to find a way to make them happen!

      I have a follow-up question for you, Mia. I know a lot of people are using Facebook for comments and discussions – but did you mean *instead* of blog comment systems? I’d be interested to learn more.

      Thanks very much Mia!
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      • Hello again, Gary. Yes, I mean that it seems to me that some marketers are taking advantage of the social media traction afforded by Facebook. I understand that it may offer an SEO advantage over blog post comments.

        Now, trust me, I am not an SEO expert at all. But I’ve observed a trend in the use of Facebook for accumulating comments and generating discussion, just as you are doing on this blog.

        Have you noticed that posting a comment on some blogs takes you immediately into the Facebook environment and that’s where the comments appear? I have.

        How I would love all your readers who know about SEO to chime in here, and to correct me if I’m mistaken, and one of the reasons is because I don’t really like Facebook but feel obligated to use it more and more.

  7. Gary, I am looking forward to seeing how this move helps or hinders engagement. You are always on the forefront and responsive to your readers – that’s awesome!

    I tend to find myself in the land of , “but it has always been done that way.” – You remain my hero. Let us know how it goes would you?

  8. Yay, Gary!

    I never had any privacy issues with Disqus, but the hassle of multiple identities drives me nuts — if the last time I logged in to Twitter or Facebook was on a client’s behalf, I don’t want to fiddle around logging out and back in before I can say something.

    My name, email and website come up in the WordPress comments form via autocomplete as soon as I type the first letter, so it only takes a second. Especially useful on mobile. :)
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  9. Hey Gary,

    This one was an eye-opener for me. I’ve struggled in the past with Discus, here and on other blogs. While I agree with most of your assessments, I did have trouble untangling the order of comments as displayed by Discus. I also wondered what purpose was served by the thumbs-up/down function. I also had trouble recalling which of my several Social ID’s I had used to “log in” in order to comment.

    You’ve always been an outstanding conversationalist. In fact, if I recall correctly, you did a well-received post (here or on another site) about getting the most out of your Comments section. I believe it’s important to keep commenting simple, crystal-clear, easy to use and easy to follow threads.

    The system you’ve assembled here looks great and fills those other criteria very nicely. The Comment.luv plug–in creates a fine “bonus,” too, a good incentive to join the conversation. (I’ll def’y consider adding it, thanks!)

    So, count me as one of your friends who should have spoken up earlier about my own dislike of Discus. I figured it was another case of “just me” being annoyed or put off by it. Thanks for your helpful analysis of the problem and your solution.
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  10. Great insights, Gary! I personally had lots of frustrating moments while trying to comment on other blogs when their comments system was making it too complicated. Also, we all can find lots of info online praising this or that plugin/feature, but not enough constructive criticism. Now that I’ve heard your opinion on Disqus, I won’t be looking into using it for my blog.
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  11. Hi Gary,

    Really great post you made here. I’ve been having issues with Disqus lately when it just keeps on booting me out and now I’m not even able to see my comments on my Disqus section. I have to log in to Disqus to see my comments. Very frustrating.

    I’ve been considering CommentLuv for a while but choose disqus instead … but now I’m thinking of going to comment luv … especially since you provided those extra links to plugins so you don’t need commentluv pro.

    But yea, I agree 100% with this blog post. I’ve only been using Disqus for 2 – 3 months now and I already have issues and problems with it. Very frustrating. But thanks for this post, I’m probably going to make the change.

  12. I used to really hate Disqus and refused to use it, but I’ve gotten used to it. I’m still less likely to comment with Disqus, but if there’s something I really want to say, I will use it. CommentLuv is a great choice, though. I love that I can leave a link to my last blog post, and I enjoy reading other commenters’ posts now and then.
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  13. I’m so pumped you wrote this, Gary.

    I get a lot of questions about commenting systems and comment spam, and my advice has been to stick with native comments and add Akismet. But because I consider you a foremost authority on blog discussion, Gary, I have been tempted by the Disqus system.

    Now that I see that the quality of discussion has enhanced without the system, you’ve helped me finally make up my mind on commenting. Thank you, Gary!

  14. Bravo Gary! I gave up on trying to work with Disqus years ago and don’t even try to comment on a blog if it’s in place. I’ve never seen the value of it because it seems like such a roadblock–too much hassle from my end (as a potential commenter). Akismet solves most problems, then moderate the first comment of anyone new, ignore nasty people and remove privileges if they don’t wise up…meh. It works. How many big, well-known blogs that get 100s of comments on every post use Disqus?

    Cheers :)
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    • Hi Leah!

      Great to see you! It’s been a while since you’ve commented here. Was Disqus the reason? If so, that just underlines the fact that many of my readers disliked it, but were too nice to complain out loud. :)

      This is enlightening. Thank you, Leah.
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      • Hey Gary,

        I’m sure Disqus made me lose interest in commenting (and even visiting) here although I don’t remember specifically. Probably a combination of things including lack of time. And why complain? I mean, everyone is into whatever they’re into, and I figure if something isn’t for me, then I’m not that blogger’s audience.

        In general, though, whenever I see Disqus I get a feeling of “some group I don’t belong to and don’t want to.” Just a feeling I get from the need to sort of give the secret code at the Disqus door (which rarely worked for me anyway without multiple attempts). I know it’s meant to encourage a community of sorts, but I like being out in the wide open prairie, so to speak, where commenting is easy with no fuss, no bother :)

        I think Disqus is designed for and marketed to people who are concerned about spammers. But what’s the worst that can happen? Some goofball gets through once a year or something? Meh. Delete. Then again, prior to my 4-5 years of blogging I managed wide-open forums where I dealt with many a troll and plenty of spammers and just got used to it. Meh. Don’t feed the trolls, delete a spammer, ignore, no problem. Akismet works great on just standard WordPress comments.

        Good luck with this! I’m sure you’ll have many more comments :)
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        • This conversation has really opened my eyes. It’s clear a lot of people just silently made their decisions on this subject.

          I completely get your “why complain” comment. Come to think of it, I don’t often bring these things up on other blogs I frequent either. And you’re right about the spam, too. It is more work with this than Disqus was. But truth be told, it’s still probably only a “2” on the 1-10 annoyance or time spent scales.

          Thanks again, Leah. This is all truly helpful.
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  15. I’ve always found Disqus to be a bit cumbersome when it comes to commenting. I don’t worry about the privacy issue, but the logging in and identity switching are both issues for me. I usually declined to comment when Disqus was involved. Also, I don’t often comment when the site uses Facebook comment systems (I don’t need my feed full of comments that most of my friends and family won’t understand 8=)

    However, as you’ve noted, the back end made life easier for you. Now you’re having to deal with the spam comments as well. I now use CommentLuv+ myself. It incorporates GASP (written by Andy as well). But there is also an AntiBacklinker plugin that is available for CommentLuv+ owners that helps as well.
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    • Thanks for that feedback, Bill.

      I’m also not a fan of the Facebook comments on the blog. Oh.. hey… *that* is what Mia (above) meant maybe? Anyway – that’s a great example. I tend to avoid commenting on those, too.

      What’s the backlink plugin? Can you tell me more? The only thing is, I want my legit commenters to get the backlinks. Thanks for speaking up, Bill – and if you can, paste the name of that plugin in here, please!
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      • Thanks for the info on Disqus! It sounded very interesting and I was considering using it, but now I won’t. The feedback here has been very helpful as well.

        Re Facebook comments on blogs — they’re a real turn-off for me. I don’t appreciate marketers (especially) wanting me to use my *personal* FB account to interact with their blog. FB is for friends and family, not for business — unless it’s a FB fan page, and I haven’t figured out how to comment using that ID. Even if I did, it would mean switching IDs…

        And, totally off on a tangent, your share bar on the left covers about 2-3 characters on the left of my screen in Chrome, which makes reading your blog a real PITA. (The cure seems to be changing the zoom from 100% to 110% — it kills the bar.)

        • Terry:

          Totally agree on Facebook comments. I avoid leaving comments on blogs that use them also. About the share bar: Odd. I’ve not received that feedback before & it looks fine on all my devices. I’ll have to figure out why you’re seeing it that way. Thank you for pointing it out.
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          • Gary — re the comment bar — looks like it’s working fine now, so maybe it was a glitch with my Chrome installation.

            For me, the deal-killer with Disqus is a feature that at first was really appealing — being able to track and see my comments around the Web. From reading the comments here and elsewhere, it seems that the info is public and *anyone* can also see it… That is what killed it for me.

            By the way, I only include the URL to my site when it’s highly relevant to the discussion at hand or to the blog readers, which is why I’ve omitted it here.
            ;-)

    • Ah Facebook comments are even worse than Disqus! Glad someone said it!
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  16. Hooray! I know I’ve complained about Disqus to you before Gary too. I noticed that when using Firefox, i could never get logged in. I’d just do it over and over and then have to open the page in Chrome and try again.

    I don’t really care about the privacy issue, but i did feel a little weird that anyone could click on my profile and see comments on any blog. I mean, it’s weird because there’s no context unless you actually click through to the post, read it and then understand. I just didn’t really like that part about it. Made me feel a little vulnerable about what i was saying on different blogs on very different topics.

    Just my 2 cents. I had noticed the other day that it was gone and meant to ask. Glad you wrote this meaningful post about it as now I understand the reasons why people use it in the first place.

    Btw, I’ve used CommentLuv for years and love it. I don’t find that people leave comment spam just for the link and if they do, I have the freedom to delete it :)
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  17. Hi Gary,
    Although you were reluctant to remove Disqus, I agree that you made the right decision. I’ve been reading your post regularly but must have left comments twice. When I reach the end of a post — on any blog — and see that I have to go through Disqus, I don’t bother.I just didn’t think going through Disqus was worth the trouble.

    From the perspective of the blogger Disque has its benefits — but what about the benefit of the audience? And as Leah says, how many well-known blogger use Disque.

  18. Hi Gary. I comment very rarely on Disqus enabled blogs. Less than 20 comments in over 10 yrs… My reason isn’t one of the 3 you mentioned. Here’s mine…

    First of all, let me ask you a question… “Do you want to get comments or not?” If your answer is yes, then here’s the next question… “What’s the price you’re willing to pay for the comments?”

    If your answer is “None, zilch, zero,” why should I waste MY TIME by posting a comment? If your answer is, “A link to your Disqus profile,” I will give you the same answer. If you give me nothing or almost nothing, I’ll give you the same thing.

    That’s it. Whether you or I like it or not, some people don’t comment on other people’s blogs just for killing their time. Many people aren’t online for the sake of loving you or me. They are online for solving their problems, for fun, for making money (for themselves, NOT for you!) etc. Irrespective how good an article is, a comment doesn’t solve commenter’s problem (unless the article is not complete or not clear), so why posting it? Just because YOU (the blogger) are looking for comments? That’s not a reason for the others to comment on your blog. You should give them another reason ;-)

    That’s my reason for not commenting on Disqus blogs. Whether other bloggers agree with me or not, it simply doesn’t matter to me. No offense. I’m not wasting my time. Period ;-)
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    • Good points, Adrian.

      And hey – I respect people’s decisions to comment or not comment. Many people like to interact, to agree or disagree, and to connect with others. But it’s not mandatory by any means. Neither is sharing on social media. It’s a choice – and of course I respect that. (Thanks for the tweet, by the way!)

      I don’t comment on every post I read either. Far from it. Just the ones I really like or have follow-up questions about.

      Thanks for choosing to join the conversation!
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  19. I still think Disqus is great, easy to set up, very easy to use. I use it for my company blog and I have never thought about the problem with login, because actually there is no login problem.

    I have configured Disqus so that people can leave comments as guests if they want to, and then there is no need for them to struggle with login problem. The thing they miss is that they do not receive email notifications.

    I may have missed if someone has mentioned it in the thread, TL;DR, but in Settings check out Community Rules and the check box for Guest Commenting.

    I agree that there is privacy issues and problem if you have multiple accounts. If you use a password manager (for example LastPass) you get both safer passwords and it is easier to login to different accounts and to not use Facebook, Twitter or Google for it.

    • Hi Goran.

      Thanks for weighing in. Like the post says, I agree that Disqus is a pleasure to use on the back-end. And the settings do provide some help with the user experience as you stated.
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    • Erin @ Paperbackstash says:

      Same, I love Disqus. Of course I don’t use WordPress either, so I don’t have as nice of a free native commenting alternative. Still, I always found Disqus ridiculously easy and provided people with a lot of choices of how they want to comment. I guess it just depends, as I stay signed in to social networking by default so it would load quickly for me whichever I chose.

  20. Hi Gary,

    I definitely think you’ve made the right choice here. There are good arguments for and against enabling comments on your blog, but if you do want comments, anything that creates additional friction for commenters has got to be a bad thing.

    Think about it this way: if Disqus wasn’t a commenting technology but – say – part of your new subscriber signup process, and you suspected it was reducing your conversions, you’d kill it in a second.

    I also worry about putting your comments – an important element of your blog’s content – in the hands of a third party. It seems to me to be another instance of the digital sharecropping problem.

    You don’t know where Disqus will take their platform in the future or even whether they’ll still be around in 5 years time.

    If you keep everything native and just bite the bullet on the additional effort required to handle spam I think you’re future-proofing yourself and your blog as much as possible.

    Cheers,

    Glen.

  21. I don’t even return to most blogs that have Disqus installed because I know I won’t be able to comment so it’s mostly not worth bothering w/what precious little time I have to read and comment on blogs.
    I hated it for all those reasons you listed and more: I made the mistake of trying it using a Twitter log in and now it’s permanently linked to that Twitter handle. It doesn’t matter if I’ve logged out of Disqus and try to click on Twitter again to use a different identity’s handle, it forces me into that first Twitter handle again so I can never comment using a different relevant identity. And I don’t ever want my personal and professional social media lives crossing so it’s hugely important to me that I get to comment using the right name/handle/identity. Disqus fails on all counts from a commenter standpoint. Glad you decided to listen to the feedback :)
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  22. Yaaaaaaay! You might remember that I’ve complained to you about Disqus, too, Gary. I’m glad you got rid of it.
    Interesting stuff about what you added to CommentLuv. I haven’t had any problems with Akismet as it is so I think I’m going to leave it like it is for now. However, I always enjoy hearing what you’re using!

    And I agree with Bill about Facebook commenting systems. I just won’t do it. I’d rather jump through the Disqus hoops to comment than put my comment out on Facebook.
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  23. I’m not a fan of Disqus for many of the reasons that you covered in this article. I do use it on one of my blogs, but I will probably remove it before too long. I actually like it better as a blogger than as a commenter.
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  24. Great post, Gary, thanks. I completely agree with you and my view is from experience. I believe that sio many people has got multiple personalities from a psichiatric point of view and not only from a mere online point of view. Internet is full of this kind of people and the posts are aggressive, hard and reactive because of all these psich problems. So, less disqus and more food for thought. Best wishes. Raffaele

  25. Perfectly timed post for me Gary. I was just looking at adding disqus to my own blog as I really like using it myself – but as you say, it’s not about me. It’s about my audience.

    At the moment I use a combination of WordPress comments and Facebook comments side by side. Seems to work quite well. Only issue is that I have to manually check for any FB comments. I can’t seem to set it up so it emails me when there are new comments. Oh well, nothing is ever perfect!
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    • Hi there Mike!

      Thank you for joining in. You know, several people have brought up Facebook comments here – and I wish I was educated enough on the subject to speak intelligently about it, but I’ve never looked into it. I do know as a reader it’s not my favorite.

      Can anyone jump in and add a level of detail to Mike’s FB comments (settings) issue? Thanks!
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      • Glad to join in. You can thank Laura Leigh Clark – she pinged me the link. Where she goes, I follow! :)

        I have to be honest, I’ve been looking at Google + comments. G+ is shaping up to be very important and it might be wise to get in on the act sooner rather than later.

        Incidentally, Dofollow links from comments are considered bad news by some SEO experts.

        Personally, I think we all worry too much about SEO and should focus on great content, great user experience and building a great audience. But that’s just my view. (I’m also told you should not start a sentence with But!)
        Cheers,
        Mike
        PS: Glad I found your blog – consider it bookmarked!
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        • Gotta love that Laura! I agree. She’s fantastic.

          I totally and completely agree that content, user experience, and audience come first. SEO is as fickle as the latest algorithm tweak. Engaged audiences stick. Exactly right.

          I’m glad you found us, too, Mike. I hope we see you around here often!
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          • Hi Gary,

            Found you through firepole marketing- nice to meet you.

            Just wanted to say that as a user, having two options for posting such as Facebook and wp it feels weird.

            It gives the impression that the blogger can’t make up their minds. Actually, they probably are trying to give consideration to their readers by giving more options. But it still feels a bit out of control to me. Why?

            Reading a blog is like being a guest in someone’s house. A good host might want to give their guest some options, but a good guest doesn’t want to impose either so they will look for the option that seems best for the host. So sometimes having too many options can make a reader/guest feel uncomfortable.

            Do you know what I mean?

            Anyway, your post and this whole discussion really helps since I’m looking to develop a blog in the future. It is a mixture of practical how-to knowledge and strategic information that only a seasoned pro can know.

            So thanks for that.

  26. Hey Gary. Haven’t read through all the comments yet, but wanted to jump in.

    Just to be contrary, I’ll jump in the “meh” category. Disqus was fine, I only have one Twitter account and signed in with that. The cool thing about it was, once I was signed in, if I jumped to any other blog that used it I was already signed in to comment there as well. Super easy.

    But, I dig CommentLuv as well, especially being able to post links. So far spam isn’t an issue, but we’ll see as the blog grows.

    BTW, you might be seeing more than the usual comments specifically because this is a post ABOUT commenting, so it may be a meta effect. Should be interesting to see how if affects your comments long-term.
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    • Dean. Buddy…

      We need to set you up with a Gravitar, my man. Can’t see your bright, shining face by your comment.

      As far as your comment – I was in the same boat as a user. I was fine with it. But enough people here have spoken up that it proves to me that switching was the right thing to do for this audience.

      About the number of comments: Agreed. While I’m not dismissing that the change helped with this post, it’s not getting full credit either. This is a topic people feel strongly about for sure. I’m interested to see the long-term effects as well.

      Thanks for stopping by, Beer Guru! (If you’re a beer lover, check out Dean’s site.)
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  27. I owned a website with monthly pageviews 50,000+ . I installed disqus thread and never had any problem with that . I initially thought of using comment luv but found the following problems
    1. You can not edit the comment once you click the post comment button , and i dont know how many times i need to edit the comment while replying the readers comments.
    2. As you said it increases the spam .
    3. No way to mark featured comment in the post comment thread.
    Let me know your views … Are you still happy with commentluv ??
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    • Hi Subham – thanks for jumping in.

      Yes – I’m still happy with it. More so each day. As to your three questions…

      1: You can edit your own (admin) comments very easily from WP Admin. Plus – if you want to give your readers the ability to do that, there is a free plugin for that, but I can’t think of the name at the moment.

      2: There is a *tad* more spam, but not enough to take a lot of my time, so I’m getting used to it :)

      3: I’m not sure in what situations I’d like to do that, really. But you’re right, CommentLuv doesn’t do that.

      But still – even with a very small amount of extra labor on my part (and you can hardly call typing labor), I’m still happy I made the change. So are my readers if this thread and all the encouraging emails I’ve received are any indication.

      Thanks again!
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  28. You may have found you just traded one set of shortcomings for another. That was my experience, anyway, when I’ve switched any kind of blog-related service. For me, the trouble with comments is a “reputation” issue. Disqus works well because comments left under a Disqus identity tended to be higher quality because it was connected to a trail of other comments by the same user. Because it is so ubiquitous on other blogs, the user typically made sure to leave thoughtful and useful comments because they knew other users could click on their account and see the types and quality of other comments they’ve made. I myself used it to “judge” the weight I would give that user depending on their history of commenting – on my blog and others.

    In any case, thanks for the good post.

  29. I used disqus years ago and was excited by what it could do.

    One thing that put me off at the time was that I lived in an area with a really poor internet connection and it always took ages to load, to the point where it was almost unusable.

    I’m sure it has improved since then, but that has always put me off and I tend not to bother. Usually simple solutions is what works best and disqus has always seemed like overkill to me.

  30. I didn’t like Disqus initially. But I soon signed up for it very reluctantly, only because there were blogs that I really wanted to comment on, but were using Disqus. I found that it was okay after all, it just needed a little getting used to. So personally, I don’t mind at all. I would still prefer the native WP comments though. Probably because it’s more common and it’s the one I’m so used to!

    I used GASP for about a week or two, and it almost seemed like it was attracting spam instead of preventing it. Changed to SI CAPTCHA and have no problems ever since. I really like the fact that you just need to check a box, and that’s why I really loved GASP. But too bad it doesn’t work for my blog for some reason.
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  31. I totally agree. Disqus makes me engage less. I know that much. Love your content. Hit me up on twitter sometime @robmcnelis

    Would like to hear more about your business model

    Rob

  32. I would never comment on Disqus because I didn’t want to go through the hassle of registering, however I recently caved in and registered because a lot of my favorite blogs now use it. I don’t mind it.

  33. Honestly I’m confused why people dislike Disqus so much. If you don’t want to sign in with a social network, you can create a Disqus account. If you don’t want to bother creating a Disqus account, you can sign in using an existing social network. If YOU, the blog owner, want to make it even easier for commenters, you can turn on guest posting, so people don’t have to sign in at all.

    Disqus is, by far, the most ubiquitous 3rd party comment system currently being used. NPR.org and Wired.com both use, as do many other large, engaging sites. As a reader, I like having one comment system I can use across websites. Alternately, as a web site manager of a non-WordPress site, I like that Disqus works nearly anywhere; I don’t need a WP plug-in to get it going (or an assortment of them).

    All of which is to say, I understand where you’re coming from and it’s awesome that you listen to your readers and act on what you’re hearing. I just don’t really understand why people would dislike Disqus so much unless they have problems with account management (remembering passwords, etc) in general; in which case I think a post on how to use KeePass or LastPass might be useful to them. :)

  34. Well, it looks like it DID work for you, Gary!

    Interesting that you just wrote about this, because I was just discussing comment options/plugins over on Tom Ewer’s Leaving Work Behind forums. No one there had anything good to say about Disqus, and I’ve rarely heard good things about it from most bloggers. From my experience, it seems bigger companies and publications like to use it (I see it most often if they don’t use the Facebook comments plugin instead). But all the bloggers with larger blog audiences like yours always seem to just default to WordPress and don’t have any complaints.

    I’d love to see how you feel about this decision in a few months!

    (Btw, I just subscribed because of your BBT post, and I saw you’re in Omaha! I used to live in NW Iowa and went to Omaha when I needed big city fun again. Sorry I haven’t been following your blog for longer so we could meet in person.)

  35. I removed Disqus from my site too for similar reasons. I really like Disqus & have no problem using it on other sites as I’m a registered Disqus user. I like that whenever I come across a site with Disqus I’m always logged in & ready to go. The one draw back for me was when people commented as a Guest, (some just refused to register, I don’t understand why) there is no url field for Guest commenters. So if I didn’t already know them I had no way of checking out their site.
    I came across your post as I have been considering giving Disqus another try but now I don’t think I will. I have read posts about Disqus, Intense debate etc where people have said that they simply refuse to comment on sites with 3rd party comment systems. I tend to be a bit the same with sites that use the rotten hard to read Captcha system. This is what annoys me most about many Blogger sites. Making commenting as easy as possible is the best thing we can do for our readers rather than giving them extra hops to jump through & deterring them from commenting.
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    • Hi Tony:

      Yeah – it was a tough choice, but I think the right one for this audience. You know Pat Flynn of Smart Passive Income just published a post in support of using Disqus. The way I look at it, 100 people silently not commenting because of Disqus is a small impact to someone like Pat – but a *huge* impact to most of the rest of us. But at the end of the day, it’s a personal audience-by-audience preference.

      As you say, I think if we err on the side of “make it as easy as possible” then we’re headed in the right direction.
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  36. Thanks for the observations, Gary and posters. (Those who came closest to my previous issues about Disqus were those noting that it was “creepy” and who were concerned about privacy.)

    But I’ve recently been struggling in vain using several sources to understand why Disqus stopped displaying the thumbs down count! They state THEY are still counting thumbs down! The only explanation from them is that a thumbs down count doesn’t represent is: “Disqus uses voting to surface the best comments, however only up votes are displayed publicly to others.” Other posters on CNN and I read that to mean: “We don’t like negativity”. But even that rationale makes no sense, since a thumbs up on a negative comment is pretty much the same as a thumbs down!

    This Disqus change happened without warning to the users, and all previous thumbs down counts disappeared. This seems exceptionally high-handed, especially since the change seems to apply uniformly to all Disqus-using sites.

    Does anyone know why Disqus acted this way? Opinions/comments also welcome, of course, but the real cause is what I’m digging for. This seems like something close to a restriction on Freedom of Speech. I know that term gets tossed around a lot, but here it actually seems to apply literally.

  37. Ryan Trattles says:

    Turning on guest comments solves pretty much every issue you brought up. I don’t really care if you prefer default comments to Disqus, but your post should really at least bring up the fact that your complaints aren’t an issue of Disqus, but rather the way you had it configured.

  38. Actually no Mary – I’ve been corresponding with him off the blog. He’s a developer.

    And he’s right – except that that setting offers no “new comment notification.”

    But close :)
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  39. What a mixture of commenting plugins you have there as a replacement for Disqus.

    Now this is what happens when I read an interesting post and decide to share my thoughts in the comments section.

    If I scroll down and see either Disqus or WP default comments and have some time, I actually take the time to leave a more detailed comment.

    If I scroll down and I see the Disqus commenting system (or Livefyre) I hesitate a bit but leave a comment nonetheless. But when I am pressed for time, I rarely leave a comment if the site’s comments section is powered by Disqus.
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  40. I wish there was a plugin that easily allowed people to post their comment on FB, Twitter, or G+. Currently there’s no good solution.
    Thanks for the info.
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    • Hi Kris:

      You mean to post the same comment to all of those at the same time? Not sure I’d want to do that.

      Or am I misunderstanding your comment?
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      • I’d like for people to be able to have their comment post on my blog and on 1 of their social networks at the same time, not all of them.
        I like the idea of the conversation being brought over to their social network page and for people reading my blog to see that people are talking about a post and then maybe join in on the conversation.
        It would expand the reach of my post and also the conversation about it.

        I wish there was a plugin that did that without it having to go through a third party (like disqus, intense debate, etc) and that included Twitter, FB and G+.

        Jetpack comments allow you to post a comment under your profile name, but you don’t have the option for the comment to go to your social page. Plus it doesn’t include G+, just FB and Twitter.

        With the 3rd party options, I don’t like the idea of my comments existing outside my blog. ( I know there are some benefits from that…) Mainly in the case that their service becomes a problem and I need to switch and switching becomes a technical problem.

        But it will probably come into existence some day, this solution I’m seeking. Until then, Life is Good, and I will just keep my eyes open for it.

        thanks for sharing your experience.
        Kris
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  41. Hi Gary,

    I’m a CommentLuv Pro user. It’s nice. I’e used Disqus in the past as well, and might return to it sometime as well. Your point for using the native WP system totally makes sense.

    The only frustrating thing I’ve found with it, (including CommentLuv) is leaving a comment, and then getting that irritating email asking me to subscribe to comments. Sure, I’d like to know if the author read and responded, but you’ll have to admit, using the native WP commenting system sure does add to the load of emails that most us already dread receiving.

    Robb
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    • Hi Robb, I’m agree with you about subscribing comment email. That’s the reason I have been thinking to switch to Disqus. When I answer questions from my readers, I always wonder whether they’ve subscribed it so they could see my reply. On the other hand, I also afraid people won’t feel like to log in to comment by using Disqus. There’s no perfect way to do this!
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      • Maggie, So true… ‘no perfect way’. But one of the things I like with Disqus is that when the author comments on someone comment, they can come back and ‘like’ it, thus acknowledging that they’ve seen and read your comment. Some don’t use this function, but I always do, because it just seems to complete the exchange.
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  42. Eric Smith says:

    Disqus has far better spam controls…

  43. This post was really an eye opener. I am too beginning to feel that I should ditch Disqus. Though, as everyone is saying, spammers will break all the hell loose.

  44. I’m commenting only because I’m actually a fan of Disqus and hate having to type my information in to comment on a blog. I would rather just log-in and comment. In fact, I’m the exact opposite of some of the readers you mentioned because I’m far more likely to avoid commenting if I have to type my information in every time I have something to add to the conversation. If I can log-in to a commenting system, especially if I can connect with Twitter, I’ll talk back otherwise I usually just pass by it.

    The absolute worst possible thing however are those blogs that still use Captcha. There are so many options now that this is just not needed.
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  45. I found your post while looking for the reason Disqus seemed to be not allowing me to place their little ‘advertisement’ links at the bottom of posts (sponsored content, I think it is), as many of my readers have remarked that they liked seeing the other stories I wrote, depending on the site.

    At any rate, I agree that Disqus can be a pain – but as a webmaster, the alternatives just aren’t that great. I fall somewhere between responding to every comment and just going all Seth Godin about it and not answering anyone. Thanks for the post though. Informative insights, but not ones that will sway me. In my case, it’s far more important for me to write than it is to comment. :)

    All the best,
    Henry

  46. Good info. I came across your post because I have been contemplating killing my Disqus. I noticed you said it was great with spam but I have had the worst time with spam. Were there certain configurations you had to make in order to get it working well for you? After reading your post I’m a step closer to killing it, but I’m not sure I want to usethe commentluv alternative. Either way, great job with this post.
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  47. Found this post after trying to comment on an unrelated blog. Disqus drove me away. Almost wanted to Tweet at the blog owner and let them know. Can’t figure out why anyone uses Disqus. It’s a nightmare just to verify identity and say your thing!!!
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    • :)
      I still comment on Disqus blogs, myself Jesse. Like the post said, I don’t mind logging in or anything personally. But I continue to be amazed at the large number of people who feel as you do.

      Honestly, as a blog owner, I do miss some Disqus features… but the readers seem to be much more interactive. Great to have you here!
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  48. Slātlantican says:

    Wow, this whole post made no sense to me. Well, one thing made sense—your readers were unhappy and you (correctly) responded. But the first two of the three major objections simply refer to problems that literally do not exist.

    1: It’s a hassle to sign in.
    Some of them don’t like having to sign in with Twitter or Facebook or Gravitar or any other service.

    I’ve been using Disqus since October of 2013, and I’ve never had a Facebook account, I’ve never had a Twitter account, and I’ve never even heard of Gravitar. I have a Disqus account that stays open on my personal iPad, but not on my desktop at work, so I never sign in at all unless I feel compelled to contribute something at work.

    2: It’s a privacy issue.
    Some felt by using social networks to log in, their privacy was being compromised and they might be allowing potentially bad-intentioned strangers access to their profiles.

    The absurdity of this objection is already covered by my last comment. Oh, and while a person can have a “profile” on Disqus, almost no one does, and you can render it—and all your activity—private as well.

    So good for you, you’re a listener. But I wonder what is going on inside the heads of these people to whom you’re listening.

    • The first rule of customer service is that if something is a problem for your customers, it’s a problem for you.

      1. So you *do* have to sign in when you feel compelled to comment unless you’re ok with cookies on your device.

      2. Same comment. If you’re ok with cookies, all is well… but some aren’t. And some don’t want Disqus knowing their SM info

      So to say those things *literally* don’t exist isn’t true at all. They exist and you need to take measures to either use or avoid them. (Logging in… and sharing your personal information)

      As the post repeatedly said, I don’t share in those concerns personally either. But it’s not about me.

      What I don’t get is why others’ choices and preferences with their own personal information seems to get people so perturbed.
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  49. Thanks, Gary, for this very helpful post on Disqus. I decided not to use it and am going with CommentLuv instead.

  50. Nice observation and write up! Will look towards what my readers have to say about disqus commenting.
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  51. Hi Gary,

    Very interesting that your readers were so dissatisfied with Disqus. We’ve been struggling with it a bit as well, but for different reasons. The reasons you mention (sign-in hassle, privacy, and managing multiple identities) can all be solved by allowing the guest commenting feature in Disqus. We actually consider commentluv’s backlinking feature to be a potential SEO problem, so we’re glad Disqus doesn’t offer this.

    The problems we have revolve more around performance – Disqus slows down our page load speed considerably, and fails to load sometimes period. Also, the syncing of comments to the backend is not ideal – if a comment gets updated in Disqus, that update doesn’t get carried over to the WP copy which the search engines see. Lack of nofollow control (and links not opening in new windows) is not ideal, but from an SEO perspective you probably don’t want follow links in your comment section anyways. Lastly – Disqus lacks the formatting options (bullets, code, etc.) of WP comments. However, at the moment the positives (design, interface, features, spam control, and the Disqus community acting as its own mini social network – which has resulted in increased referral traffic for us) outweigh the negatives.

    I’m curious to hear if you and your readers will still be in the same boat in a year, I’ll check back!

    Cheers,
    Alex

    • Good points Alex –

      But “guest commenting” has many downsides as well. I’ve looked into it based on another reader’s comment above. Primarily – no new comment notification.

      Interesting, though that everyone makes their argument from their own individual point of view – which kind of supports my decision. My personal opinion of Disqus was largely positive – but the majority of this community disagreed with me. Sometimes loudly :)

      As for the year… who’s to say? I’m open to whatever that year brings – including Disqus again or some other system.

      Thanks, Alex!
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  52. Well, in my opinion privacy is not a problem for those really want to leave a decent comment. sSign in and other options are available for spammers only.
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  53. Saba Amrin says:

    Great discussion on Disqus Thanks for sharing your experience with Disqus.I have learned a lot.

  54. I’m not a very sophisticated computer user. Enough to keep my computer running and safe is about it. The technology is whooshing over my head faster and faster. I’m 71. In any case, I post on forums a lot and I was surprised to find, by accident, that Discus was gathering all my posts in one place. My sense of privacy was shocked. I haven’t posted on a site that has Discus in over two years. I never post on a site that has Discus. And as a matter of fact, I hate Discus because I have several names I post under and they will not allow me to delete any posts unless I know which identity I used for each individual post; they don’t show it. Since I’m older and lived through the Nazi’s I guess I have an exaggerated sense of privacy. I don’t want to find myself on a list of people the government don’t like. We were safer when private information was located only locally; a person who, for example, wanted to change their life could move away and start over. Now you can’t do that. Your picture, your private comments, your life basically is fodder for any hater out there. And one of the reason we can’t get decent people to run for public office anymore. Anyway…my posting days are coming to an end. I see it coming.

  55. Hi Gary,

    I believed (or at least thought) that disqus was a facilitator. In my blog (custome made internally to have a more depply control of SEO, Tracking stuff) we had decided to go with disqus for comments as a way to leverage their easy-of-use. Maybe i have to re-think that but as far as i can see, is the most popular comments service on the web.

    Regards

  56. Thanks for this, I was just about to install disqus on my blog, glad I came across your post!
    Katie
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  57. I dont think so because disqus is the best commenting site as of now and i also like comment Luv these both sites are the best platforms and i have them on sites.

  58. Hi, what a great post I just read !
    I’m taking the time to comment here because I made a website for a client. I needed to use a free commenting system that is spam-secured and then I found Disqus.

    At first I thought “Wow what a great system, easy to use admin and easy to comment”.
    Then my client started to try it out and then he called me. What he said was disapointing for me.
    He logged in using Facebook to comment, but before he could comment, a Disqus popup obligated him to register to be able to comment.

    He thought “What is the goal of loggin in with a social network if you are forced to use your Disqus account to comment ?” He has a point. Not a lot of customers know Disqus and they may be scared of it or they may not want to subscribe to another social service to be able to comment.

    The logic would be : Comment using your Twitter, Facebook or Disqus account separatly.
    But the reality is, use your Twitter or Facebook informations to create a Disqus account, which you may never use elsewhere.

    So I will probably use another commenting system, maybe less spam-proof but that will not force you to create another account.

    I’m sorry if this text is hard to understand, I’m French and I try to be as clear as possible.

    Again, great post and have a nice weekend !

  59. Thanks for the article. I have never used disqus, but I was thinking of using it. I’ll be doing a lot more research on it now.

  60. Great post! I always thought I was the only person that disliked Disqus, but I see I’m not alone.

    I would read a great article and scroll down to comment, only to realize that the comments were powered by Disqus. The fact that I had to log in just to leave a comment seemed a bit strange to me, but I understand why it is that way.

    I guess I shouldn’t say I “disliked” Disqus, but rather I felt forced to have something that I really didn’t need. The way this comment system works is so much simpler and painless. On my website, I haven’t quite yet figured out how to change the comment system, but I sure will :)

  61. You know…I recently changed over to Disqus from LiveFyre because I was trying to eliminate all the spam. I DO care about my audience, but I SO dislike having to spend so much time deleting unwanted comments on the backside of my blog.

    I’m just curious…have you had a lot of trouble with spam? I used to use CommentLuv, and I can’t recall what my experience was with spam. It’s been so long.

    Anyway…if you’re able to respond, it will help inform the decision that I think I might need to make, soon…
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  62. Thanks for the interesting comments on Disqus I was considering opting in but now won’t.

  63. Not bad the comment luv ! It seem to be effective !
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  64. Thanks a lot. Your article has helped me to make my decision to use which comment system. My primary concern was not to inconvenience my readers which at this point are very few. Profile pic points to gravatar hovercards and username in wordpress points to my blog, but disqus takes us to its own profile which is pretty unproductive.
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  65. This post reminds me how you can never please everyone, and trying to do so can, and will, cause problems.

    The same reason Disqus haters gave for hating it, ease of use, is the same thing that I like about it. I tend not to follow individual blogs, even ones that I love from the Nerdist and Stuff You Should Know communities. I find articles and posts through news, searches, and posts from friends and organizations that I follow through social media. This means that if I make 24 comments it will likely be on 20 different sites. I like to see if people respond to my comments, and I have found that the easiest way to do that is through Disqus. I can log into one place and see 90% of the responses to things I posted.

    As far as privacy goes, I fail to see how either option is better. Both link email addresses, and you do not need a Facebook account to log in, though it is easier. I do not mind Facebook because I have my privacy settings set up so that almost nothing is public. If someone has a public Facebook account and is worrying about privacy I think that they have bigger things to worry about than Disqus linking to it.

    As far as using multiple identities, I do this and have had no problems. I use different identities for posting on gaming sites, political sites, and tech sites, as well as a dummy identity to cut down on spam and a professional identity for my photography business and posting anyplace photography related. I find it no harder to switch disqus identities than I do to re-enter my desired email and name every time that I want to post.

    I am not a die hard Disqus fan (It is no Canon or Linux in my mind

  66. Disqus is way better than Fackbook and Twitter for login posts. I like keeping them separate from my posted comments to keep them guessing on my Facebook and Twitter accounts about what to sell me.

    The best thing about Disqus is you can go back and edit your comments minutes or days latter. Super great for bad spellers that want to clean up their posts. And many times I go back and tone down comments that had a hot reply to some idiot. That makes it a powerful and safe posting tool!

    Plus, you can lock down your account so nobody can try and figure out who you are by looking at your old posts. This to is a win-win.

    The more I use Disqus, the better I like it.

    P.S. you can also change your online user name which is another great feature to keep the crazies from tracking you.

  67. To me the only point that makes sense is the dual identities, but to me the ease of use of disqus still beats the downside. The way i get around the dual identities is using chrome for one while using firefox for the other.

  68. And now i just ran into another downside of not having disqus, i wanted to edit my previous comment but as far as i see this feature is not available with default comments.
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  69. I don’t understand this comments about disqus. You can comment anonymous, you can easily log in with your google/facebook/twitter account and you can open special disqus account.

    What’s the problem here? All comments you featured in your post just told “I don’t like it” and no arguments why that is so. There is only something about disqus not accepting password (which is kind of absurd, because I don’t know how other million people successfully manage to comment on disqus sites).

  70. Dave Cockayne says:

    There are many reasons not to like Disqus but for me the biggest problem is an Orwellian one.

    Disqus is used on a lot of political/news websites and moderators can edit your posts, when they do there is no indication or record available either to you as a commenter or to people viewing your post that a moderator has edited it.

    Given that I live in a country where what you say online can get you imprisoned and a substantial minority of people follow a certain religion which murders people for criticising it, this is a serious problem.

    Try explaining to a judge or an axe wielding jihadi, that yes it is your account, yes you did post a comment, but the moderators at the Daily Telegraph simply changed your comment based on their personal biases.

  71. Haha and I thought I was alone in struggling with Disqus – good call!
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  72. Disqus is personally my favorite commenting system and I can’t understand how anyone could have issues with it. I’ve always used Disqus on projects I’ve worked on and never considered that it might not be the right choice because it’s simply so easy to manage and to use from the users perspective. Each to their own I guess.

  73. I am using Disqus on one of my sites and there is a fewer spam comments. For me though, I am much less likely to leave a comment on sites using another system and specially Blogger’s commenting system having captcha where sometime even you need to write comment again in case of wrong captcha verification. The main reason I’ve been using it for so long, is because of the ability to easily moderate and reply to comments via email. So apart from reasons

  74. Saksham Saxena says:

    I recently started my blog. It’s a technical blog and I was looking for good comments/discussions from my fellow colleagues in my college, so I installed Disqus naturally. I, being an intermediate coder, could not identify the problems which Disqus was creating for me. It was simply beyond me, a guy who has had long rounds with JavaScript since i-dont-remember :| Now I’m not even sure how much audience I’ve already lost due to Disqus, and if I will ever get them back …:\

  75. A41202813GMAIL says:

    Talking About User Friendly Features, I Rather Comment On A DISQUS System Than On An FB System.

    I Refuse To Comment On The Latter.

    At Least DISQUS Has The Possibility Of Comments Being Sorted By Date – Upwards Or Downwards – What About This One ? – I Do Not See It.

    Cheers.

  76. Thanks a lot Gary.. i was just about to add Disqus to my Geek Blog but after reading your post, i think i might hold on to that thought. But the problem is i really hate the old commenting system, now i hate Disqus too. Any Alternatives ?

  77. Thanks for this post. I have been considering switching my commenting system to Disqus, but now I don’t think I’m going to! Phew!
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  78. Hey Gary,
    I have been going with CommentLuv from the very first day I started blogging. Like you said, it encourages traffic and engagement. I think broken links is one big piece you have to deal with. However, for those with the premium version, Andy, the developer came up with a solution.

    I still don’t think to switch to something else right now. I don’t even think of disqus for now. WordPress native system is good to go with

    Thanks for sharing your experience on this with us
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  79. I can’t switch because Akismet still does a terrible job at protecting you from spam comments. Too much time is spent sorting through what is and is not spam and then having to go back and delete spam messages that get past the filter. With Disqus I don’t have any spam messages, but I also offer Facebook comments via a WP plugin where I embed the code in a post, this offering an alternative. I can spend my spare time working on online advertising rather than managing comments – it’s a sacrifice I am willing to make — I also don’t get trolls this way and can protect my writers from mob mentality that unfortunately happens from time to time on the Internet.
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  80. jack deng says:

    hey thanks a lot Alan for listening to your users. The hassle is not appreciated at all.

  81. I’m OK with disqus, but what I don’t like is its crappy log in method, that artsy crap with floating bubbles everywhere which makes it take a long time to load and SEE the little login link on top. It’s confusing crap. So to is how they removed vote down counts, or rather doesn’t say who votes you down, so you don’t see any trolls. It also is buggy when trying to see who voted you up, either that or takes forever to see, if it’s loading that info then it should show a loading sign so you don’t think nothing is happening when you hold your mouse over the vote up count. It’s also confusing when it seems to instantly show that someone voted you down, even tho it seems impossible or unlikely anyone did so that fast. It’s as if it starts you off with a vote down. It should also have some anti trolling thing, like allow you to block people that the system sees mostly votes down. It’s system is also confusing, like seeing where my comments were simply to get a tally on how many votes I got up I found to be confusing. But that was only half the annoyance, of course the main annoyance was bad moderators, be it the website owner or not. But Disqus is meant to facilitate the moderator of course, not allow the moderator to have comments he doesn’t want.
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  82. Very good article, I was searching for bets comment system for wordpress and found your blog. Well i will try commentluv plugin on website.
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  83. I want to use disqus but from this post i don’t need it any more. Thanks for sharing this post and your research.
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  84. i don’t know why people use disqus. I read in one blog if i add disqus comment system in my blog disqus will pay me. Is it true?
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  85. Thank you for sharing this! I’d been having trouble with the same things. I loved Disqus but kept getting emails from people telling me they’d tried to comment and it wouldn’t let them! I’ve taken your advice and installed all of those plugins. Here’s hoping it makes a difference :)

  86. Disqus Sucks. I too don’t like it.
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  87. Hey @Gary after read this post I realized that disqus have lot of disadvantages from user point of vierw. That’s why I’m trying Jetpack. That’s a user friendly plugin same as wp comment box.
    In future we will try comment luv, Because we have a lot of finest feedback about this one plugin. ;)
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  88. I am just adding disqus to my blog, but after reading your post I am going to remove disqus from my blog :) thanks for this great post.

  89. Hey, nice article I always thought about using Disqus for my website but wasn’t sure if I should. I just stuck with the native WP comment system. Seems like you did too with the additions of other plugins working together. I guess I won’t be trying Disqus for now haha.

  90. I guess I’m backwards. I hate having to type any more than I have to, which means having to complete those three little fields is a hassle for me.

    Plus, there’s this:
    https://help.disqus.com/customer/portal/articles/832187-guest-commenting

    Disqus has the ability to allow people to post without registration. They just complete their name and email address. So I’m not sure why it’s a problem for so many people?

    By the way – below the three fields for name/email/website there is a checkbox (right above this comment box I’m typing in). There’s no text, so I’ve no idea what I’m auto-checking.

    One other issue with this back-to-basics method you’ve implemented is that it puts more email in my inbox. I always want to know if someone replies to me, and having to get an email rather than a notification alert via a comment system (like Disqus) creates more work for me. Just sayin’
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  91. Gary, thank you for exposing the shortcomings of Disqus. I have discovered that malicious people can repeatedly flag a Disqus comment and teach its algorithm to block everything from that commenter. The net effect is to render a user’s Disqus account worthless. Kudos to you for finding better plug-ins. You have done us all a big favor.

  92. I’ve been looking for info on this when I realized I can’t have both CommentLuv *and* Disqus. Like you, I love Disqus, so I’d hate to see it go. I’m way more likely to follow up on a comment reply because Disqus will send me an email if someone replies to me.

    Conversely, with WordPress, I have to choose to subscribe to *all* comments. And 90% of the time those comments are not related to my own comment, and are a total waste of my time to read (e.g. “Thanks for writing this terrific post!”). So I seldom subscribe to comments, and often regret it when I do.

    With Disqus, every few months I go into my profile and look at what comments people have liked or responded to, again increasing my engagement. I would understand why people didn’t like it if it required a login, but you can login with a bunch of common social networks. Seems a bit much to *hate* a comment system just because you were required to login to Twitter just to comment…it takes less time to type one password than it takes to type your email and your website in any case, so I truly don’t see the problem.

    Not that you made the wrong decision—good to listen to your readers. And I don’t get a ton of comments in relation to the amount of traffic I get, perhaps Disqus is a factor. =/
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    • I feel you. I just got an email alert for this post – and only saw it because I happened to be checking something in my mailbox specifically on the Disqus topic. There is not enough time in the day to look to see if someone replied to me or someone else!

      I do stay logged into Disqus. So many sites I hit regularly use it, so it’s easy to see a notification (without getting flooded with email). Also, no one needs a login to use Disqus – only if they want to be identifiable via one of a number of accounts (Facebook, twitter included).

      For me, filling in three or more fields every time I want to common is a time waster. And I don’t save the data in those fields because I also manage accounts for clients, so auto-fill is a no-no in this sense.
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  93. I like Disqus, but I don’t…

    Sorting by Best (up-voting) seems very inconsistent and you can’t see the down-votning influence.

    I had the same issue as others about 3rd-party authentication. I don’t trust Facebook with my general browsing; which includes Facebook Social Plugin commenting – that I block with Facebook Disconnect.

  94. Scanning through the comments above it looks like there are still many more people who like disqus vs haters. So are you going to bring disqus back?
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  95. when i read through other articles on disqus, i get lots of criticism about commentluv. i am so confuse and i don’t know which comment plugin to use pls help asap!!!!!!!!
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  96. I still use disqus, but yes, never used for comments yet! Kinda I like commenting direct and keep privacy..

  97. Used to use disqus, irritated by the login process.
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  98. Disqus is a great plugin, what about facebook comment?

  99. I found your site searching the web for reasons why site admins would choose to use Disqus and I think you hit the nail on the head: Ease-of-use for the site admin. In my experience as a normal site visitor, Disqus is NOT user friendly, it’s a hassle more often than not and leaves me frustrated. My wife, who is not as tech savvy, has a virolent hatred of Disqus and avoids commenting on any site that uses it.

  100. Whenever I read something with Disqus as the comment section, when I try to click on the notifications, it sends me to something else besides my notifications. And when I try to use Disqus’s admin board, my notifications load, and load, and load, and never come up, so I can’t see what my notifications in Disqus are.

    Any advice? And did other people have this problem?
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  101. I must admit I definitely prefer CommentLuv as well.
    I actually like reading the comments left by others and then branching off to read any of the ‘recently published’ posts that looks interesting.
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  102. Hey, Have avoided posting on so many sites because, to speak I had to register. This is not just with Disqus either. I suppose I’m skeptical about on-line identity and control. I did register for Disqus recently because the subject was compelling. However I deleted my account as soon as I realised that they tracked all the website i visited , analyzed my comments and tailored ads for me. Google does the same I know, and I’m slowly approaching the point of removing my google identity, dropping my gmail, and hosting my own mail server. Not sure what to do about chat generally. I’ve already killed facebook.

    its about independence. Having entered the adult world, and finally having achieved the independence of not having to tell my parents where I am all the time or get their permission for everything I do, and no longer having them constantly making suggestions about what I watch, read, study and even think, I feel as if Disqus and and other are slowly taking the place of my parents. Not with the same motivation but basically having the same effect subtly removing my independence. I really don’t have that much of an issue with privacy. It’s what they do with my stuff that bothers me.

  103. There’s something sneaky and suspicious about Disqus, and I can’t yet put my finger on it. But I stopped using it a while ago when I realized that other commenters could go to my Disqus profile and use it as a resource for my commenting activity. That’s not something I necessarily want aggregated or seen as a collection. I’m assuming they have a commercial stake, as do most capitalistic ventures. I deactivated my Facebook account after the advertisers came marching in with tools to target everyone. The more opaque the activity, the creepier it feels. Readers can’t feel comfortable when there’s an invisible audience standing over their shoulders, watching and waiting for a vulnerable moment. That’s what Disqus feels like.

    Thanks for making the change – be the pioneer, not the puppet!

  104. This is a well written post. I (evidently) like the fact that tools like Disqus are not used here. I can’t remember the number of times I’ve started to read a post on a site, then see they use Disqus, and think “Ughhh” – And go to another search result (without finishing the post I’m reading).

    One thing not mentioned in this post (and perhaps others may think the same way), when I write a comment on a post, that content is intended for the site, and it’s community. It is not intended to provide benefit to third parties (like Disqus et al).

  105. How many times have I not left a comment because I had to sign-up with Disqus. So for me Disqus is not audience /comment friendly.
    I found your site when I was searching for more information on Disqus and the system that you are using now with the free version of CommentLuv looks great.
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  106. I actually found you because I was trying to decide if I should move from regular comments to ‘Disqus’ before my health site on glutathione gets too much traffic. Now I’m second guessing it… I want it to be low friction for readers and never really realized Disqus might be too much trouble for people.
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  107. Add me to the club of folks who dislike Disqus. I hate jumping through hoops so that I can comment on a post and I worry about security.

    I’ve been using Postmatic on my blog as an alternative for comments – http://wordpress.org/plugins/postmatic. Folks seem to be responding well to the ability to respond to posts via Email.

  108. I wonder why I ever put DISQUS on my site. I recall a friend telling me that she wanted to comment but couldn’t figure out how to register. Early on I should have removed it. A question….once I disable DISQUS will it take my comments from what I currently have to zero?

  109. Hi Gary.

    Till today, I was also a disqus user. From your post and the readers comments, I can see that, disqus will badly break my comment system.

    Post shared to all my networks.

    Keep posting these type of reviews with cemented proof.

    Thanks.
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  110. Thank you. I, too, removed Disqus not too long ago. I found this post searching for “i’m not receiving disqus verification email.” Which is especially frustrating since I have a verified account and receive Disqus digests.

  111. First of all, any software program like disqust, which says “taking too long to load? click reload button” is junk software-not ready for prime time. Secondly, who gave these disgust people the right to park their fat a@& in the middle of the info Hiway like a drunken troll as its comment gatekeeper? I’m proud of you for dumping them. We don’t need a bloated “mediator” mining and approving our comments. Dump disqust now.

  112. I share ur thoughts. Commentsluv is a good system worth the consider

  113. Hi gary, just set up a new blog and have been contemplating with using Disqus, Livefyre and Facebook comments but it seems like it’s much better to just go with the platforms native commenting system. Have you noticed any reductions in sharing of new posts though after going Disqus-less?
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  114. for you relies upon intensely on your viewers. For example, even some knowledgeable blog writers find Disqus complicated and frustrating. If visitors hate Disqus to the factor where they’re not leaving comments or even going to,

  115. Thank you for this post! There are things about Disqus that have bothered me (like all the comments I lost when I installed it) but I loved the threading of the comments and the emailed replies. But after a recent issue I was looking for a way to fix it and came across this post. Thank you for giving me the courage to abandon Disqus and learn more about native WP comments (which can be threaded, I had no idea!) I am way happier about commenting than I have been before and happy to add CommentLuv back to my site with the added spam filter. Yay!
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  116. Like you, I don’t have any issues using Disqus. Logging in is easy and privacy is a non-issue. Managing multiple identities seems like an edge case to me but I am one of those that have multiple identities and I don’t think it’s difficult to manage. I think people who don’t like Disqus are just lazy and/or paranoid and people who say they hate it and it’s a “nightmare” are guilty of gross hyperbole.

  117. hi gary, thanks to this article, yes your right, some people hassle to sign it. i decide to remove my disqus in my website..
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  118. Jake Eagleshield says:

    comments attributed to me that i did not say

  119. I don’t have heavy comment traffic on my blog, but I was getting a small bit on one of my posts. As soon as I installed Disqus, I lost ALL comment traffic.

    I have no uninstalled it. I’m one of those people that can never remember login information, so I’ll just deal with the native WP. Reinstalled Commentluv. I had it in the past, not sure why I uninstalled it way back.
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  120. I to hate this commenting system and many of my users didn’t left comments on my blog due to this..
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  121. The reason I’m here is because I hate the Disqus thing and was trying to ascertain if it was just me or a wider issue. I have all but given up on making comments on news articles because so many sites use Disqus and I don’t want to sign up or in with that. They want access to my profile and email address, sorry buddy that’s just not going to happen. Who the heck are they, they’re not needed. See, no Disqus here and I made a comment. :-)

  122. Read a handful of blog posts this morning that I wanted to comment on. This is the first one that I’m actually leaving a comment on because all the others used Disqus.

    Seemed like I had to be missing something since so may blogs use Disqus so I Googled around a bit and wound up here. Glad to hear I’m not the only one annoyed by the hoops you have to jump through for Disqus comments.
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  123. Sona Mathews says:

    Commentluv plugin is good for WordPress. but when we use Blogger i prefer to use disqus on my site eAskme : How to

  124. Great article. This is my first visit to my blog and even I am planning to kill disqus from my site.
    As I am hosted on blogger, using default comment plugin blogger provided, I used to get some comments but after adding disqus they almost stopped.
    I’ll Probably go with commentluv too.
    But doesnt it affect your site backlinking to so many website in the eyes of google?
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  125. Besides hosting your own wordpress comments system, you have to decide if you want to outsource comment functionality to a third party, like many blog functions, or do it yourself. Will you keep your source code up to date to prevent hackers exploiting it? If you choose a commercial third party be prepared to put up with their commercialization of user profiles in order to server targeted ads so they can make some money from their ‘free product’. My solution, learn to program the disqus API and take control of the output yourself, secondly enable anonymous posting for those readers who dont want to be tracked by big bro. This is as good as any solution. I personally like the disqus UI more than facebooks.

  126. Another thing, the fact that you would risk your readers certainly being profiled and tracked by facebook, which has by far much more personal information on them than disqus has, would sway me to offer any non-facebook commenting system just because of that concern for their privacy. I think we’ve had enough facebook profiling on the web and my sites won’t be part of that invasion of privacy.

  127. I have never commented in any of your blogs. I am cleaning my computer because Google said I was hacked and Disqus is one of two plug-ins I had the choice to delete because it had access to my basic account info. I did a search on it to remember what it was and saw your blog. I HATED IT but wanted to add points of view on a couple blogs that I felt strongly about so I signed up. I didn’t realize it was still in here and I am now deleting it due to all the information needed to sign up or using a social media sight to comment. Screw that. I have decided I’d rather not comment no matter how strongly I feel about something from here on than use Disqus. Hope that helps. You did good to stop using it sir.

  128. I went from WordPress default to Vanilla Forums with cross-posting functionality set up because the comment threading made large discussions impossible to read. I saw a complete loss of all comments for a month. I just switched to the official Facebook comment addon from WordPress hoping to get my comment traffic back up. Did I make a terrible mistake? I asked some regular readers and they felt that associating real names would reduce trolling.

  129. 1. Linking back should be enabled on a comment by comment basis or it does encourage useless comments in addition to outright spam.
    2. I really dislike using social logins. I dislike them so much I am posting here and also on another blog (through Disqus: yuck)
    3. I strongly agree with those who expressed sentiments 2 and 3 but I think you substantially mischaracterized the former. The posted profile is often the least of the privacy invasion although it might allow personal stalking.

  130. It seems that all the complaints about Disqus derived from lack of knowledge and laziness. Using the same list of topics as the post author’s, let me counter argue in favor of Disqus.

    1. When one open an account on Disqus, it is independent from any social media. You DO NOT need to link Disqus with Facebook, twitter, or any other social profile. Linking Disqus with other websites is an option available after the account is created.

    2. The Privacy Settings of Disqus are simple and very easy to understand. In 3 clicks I was able to visualize and decide on my privacy. And again, it does not need to be linked with Facebook, since Disqus is set to be independent and unrelated by default.

    3. Disqus allowed me to centralized many different internet identities in one, the opposite of what people were complaining. I no longer need to have WP, or a blog specific identity, and many other multiple identities. The best part, all my comments are centralized on my Disqus home page, I can follow other comment makers (which introduced me to many other good blogs) and I can easily manage all the replies in my notifications tread.

    It feels like people pre-judged Disqus and made invalid complaints before even trying to look into them. Disqus is a great tool, but like any other tool, it can be badly used. Let it go people, better tools than WP are available already.

  131. Checkout the Jetpack Comments by Automattic. It seems better than the Commentluv plugin.

  132. To discuss or not to Disqus. That is the question.
    Got so confused that I just had to scroll to the bottom to vent. I just set up Disqus and now here you all go.
    I feel like I’ve just been through the spin cycle. I have considered Comment Luv and use Akismet (which is great in my opinion). I’m not techy so I need simple, “take me by the hand” support.
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  133. Now I have to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page to comment though!

    My two cents: First of all, you can enable guest-commenting in the admin panel in Disqus which negates the need for commenters to log in to anything. Everyone seems to miss this when they’re complaining about “required login”

    Second: Notice that most of your complaints are from other bloggers. In my experience, most bloggers hate Disqus, but love Commentluv. Why? For one, they can leave a handy little link back to their own website in there. But the average Joe prefers to do what’s easiest for them. Which, if you’ll take a look around at just about ANY popular news site, etc., is either Disqus or some form of Facebook commenting. You’d be hard-pressed to find a PR4 or higher site with native WordPress commenting, and even harder to find one that uses Commentluv.

    You have to ask yourself, whose interaction do you value more? Your blogger friends, or your leadership?
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  134. I switched some of my sites to Disqus and so far haven’t had any complaints from users. The main reason for switching was to get rid of spam, which seemed to be accelerating with five to ten spammy comments daily on the blogs just using normal WordPress comments. I didn’t feel like paying for Akismet so this is not a comment about its effectiveness… I think I’ll run with Disqus for a while and see how things go. Thanks for the article though, helped sensitize me to look out for some things that my visitors may experience.
    Rowland recently posted…Fishing on the Edwards River NSW on My Inflatable Pontoon BoatMy Profile

  135. An interesting read. My theme recently implemented an built-version of Disqus, so I gave it a go…but as you said, the whole login function of Disqus can be quite annoying to users. Now that I see commentluv here I may just research that a bit more and give it a go some day. Thanks!
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  136. I am surprised that you pulled the plug on disqus just because one is required to login to be able to comment. A simple google search would have enlightened you with the feature called ‘guest comments’
    This whole tone looks like ‘now that I am dumping disqus (for whatever reasons), let me go ahead and try to justify that’.

    • Hmm. Sounds like you didn’t read the post.

      If you had, you’d see that’s not the only reason at all. You’d also see that I personally liked using Disqus.

      And also… we’re all very familiar with the guest commenting feature. No Google enlightenment needed. Throughout this comment thread “guest comments” have been discussed pretty thoroughly. They don’t offer the same features.

      So no justification at all. In fact, in multiple places throughout the post, I said I only changed because of my readers. Not sure where you got those impressions. Again…maybe read the post and the comments.

      I appreciate you speaking your mind, though!
      Gary Korisko recently posted…How to Overcome Adversity and Steal Its PowerMy Profile

  137. Glad to see others hate Discus. I hate-hate-hate it! I’m creating a proposal for a client project and I suspect commenting will be a big part of their traffic, so I’m weighing options. Mixed bag regarding their audience so I’m researching my options. Thanks for sharing your research on CommentLuv. I can add it to my list to evaluate.

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